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Getting
to Know You: Elizabeth Toledo
OutSmart
chats with the new executive director of the National
Gay and Lesbian Task Force
by
Clarence Burton Bagby
This
past June, Elizabeth Toledo took office as the
new executive director of the National Gay and
Lesbian Task Force, replacing Kerry Lobel. A veteran
organizer in the feminist movement, Toledo comes
to the NGLTF from the National Organization of
Women (NOW), where she was vice president over
field organizing, coordinating everything from
clinic defenses to marches of 100,000+. She is
the first Latina to lead NGLTF and alsowith
two kids, Mia, 4, and Tomas, 3the first
working mother to lead NGLTF.
Along
with the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), the NGLTF
is one of the two top GLBT political organizations
in the countrythe progressive NGLTF emphases
state and local grassroots organizing, whereas
the HRC is more of a centralized lobbying organization
. Conducting the interview, Clarence Bagby is
our regional representative on the national board
of the NGLTF; Clarence is quite active with the
organization, and was part of the decision to
hire Toledo.
As
part of this NGLTF emphasis on local organizing,
Toledo is coming to Houston to recognize the 25th
anniversary of the Houston Gay and Lesbian Political
Caucus (see article p. 72), and to be the keynote
speaker at their 25th Anniversary Awards Gala
on Sunday, November 19, 6:30 p.m., at the Sheraton
Brookhollow, 3000 North Loop West. Tickets are
$90, $75 if purchased before Nov. 13. For information
or tickets, call the caucus office at 713/521-1000.
OutSmart:
Tell us a little about life as a mother of two
small children and how you make that work as executive
director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task
Force.
Elizabeth
Toledo: Well, as working mothers, weve adopted
the "It takes a village" concept of
extended family. My partner Cindy Jordan and I
both work, but carve out our schedules. We both
travel a lot and we really work to maximize our
family time. A dear friend lives with usshes
like an aunt to us. I keep a calendar thats
clear [of everything but] family and job. ...
They still have their father in their liveshe
sees them every other weekend. There are two things
with the kidsif theyre not with us,
theyre with someone thats considered
"family"with a very non-traditional
definition. I use every gadget imaginable to make
myself efficient. We have two cats and two Chihuahuas.
Things work in a different way for uswhen
Im working in the West, I often take the
kids with me and arrange a layover with their
grandparents.
Where
did you grow up? Tell us a little about your childhood.
I
grew up in Tucsonmost of my family is still
there and in southern California. I left the desert
after high school. Grew up with a large family:
four brothers and four sisters. And [I had] young
parentsthey started when they were 17. It
was a time of great change and they were very
politically active; they believed family was first
and community was second. My mother was escorted
to the edge of the Catholic high school campus
when it was discovered that she was pregnant.
We were brought up Catholic and our family is
Mexican-American. I remember growing up thinking
everyone was Catholicas a cultural [reality]
as much as a spiritual reality.
It
sounds like it wasnt a great experience
for you to grow up Catholic?
I
was brought up in Catholic schools and grew to
be very resentful. It was very difficult for me
to leave the church because of my familybut
I was so unwelcome, I cant bring myself
to raise my children there. Cindy and I have been
trying to identify a "home" church.
We want the children to be exposed to spiritual
traditions and hope they feel welcome to explore
whatever experience they want tosynagogues,
churches, or whatever path they choose. I just
wont accept being treated as anything less
than equal or without human dignity ... in any
institution or company for that matter. I mean,
Cindys doctor wouldnt give her birth
control!
Tell
us about Cindy.
She
grew up on the East Coast. She used to be a police
officer in Montgomery County, Maryland, where
we now live. We see people all the time and she
says "Ive arrested that person ten
times!" She was formerly NOWs lesbian
rights director. We both work in GLBT political
organizingshe now works at HRC.
Why
did you want to be the executive director of the
task force?
Well,
one, I love politics. Two, Im committed
to the idea that a comprehensive grassroots mobilization
strategy is what our movement, the gay, lesbian,
bisexual and transgender community, needs. Three,
NGLTF is uniqueit is the only group with
a grassroots strategy and a true progressive philosophy
at its very core. Four, the task force values
strategic thinking, research, and planning. Five,
no one else is doing this workthe foundation
of the organization is brilliant. Six, having
worked in the feminist community as a leader for
more than a decade, Im very interested in
turning my focus and the movements focus
in a time when we are able to achieve things that
werent even dreams a decade ago. [Theres
a ]potential with todays combination of
legal and cultural influences to bring about fundamental
change in the way we live our livesand to
achieve those goals in big steps and strides as
never before was possible. I just want to be a
part of shaping that. Seven, the hardest thing
Ive ever done was to leave NOW. I was a
viable candidate for NOW president. NGLTF is one
of the few, if not the only, organization I would
have left for. Its the nations premiere
progressive GLBT organization and the oldest national
group.
What
are your goals for your first year at the task
force?
We
must see an explosive growth in our movement and
I believe the NGLTF mantra that the real power
is in the states and local communities. We have
to create a bigger and better political infrastructure
in each and every state. Most states have an infrastructure
due in large part to NGLTF and our training institute
that Dave Fleisher heads; our field organizers;
and most importantly, the Federation of Statewide
LGBT Advocacy Organizations that we created and
staff; and the annual Creating Change Conference.
Our think tank, the NGLTF Policy Institute, produces
fantastic papers and materials and leads the movement
on research and policy analysis.
But
we must do more. We must develop multiple strategiesmany
state organizations simply dont have resources
so we must facilitate productive sharing of resources.
We are identifying cutting-edge ways to find people
to become part of movementthe Internet is
a crucial part of that strategy of course. I dont
want NGLTF to have a corporate philosophy, but
I do want to use some corporate tactics that workcutting-edge
technology for organizing and communication. And
we must recognize the power of the media and be
able to convey our message to huge numbers of
people who otherwise dont feel invited to
participate in our movement.
Thats
an awfully long list!
Yes
it is! And thats part of our messagethe
urgencyconveying that the time is now. The
message of freedom, justice, and equalitythat
we deserve basic human rights and that by coming
into the movement, we can achieve that with those
numbers as our strength. With people living lives
in this cloud of discrimination, many have lost
sight of the fact that we all deserve to live
free of discrimination. So many people are not
invited to play a role.
How
do you bring those people into the movement?
Specific
wayscapture people on the Internet. Be present
with visibility in GLBT and other progressive
gatheringscampuses, Prides, social justice
gatherings. And through the media, advertising,
and generally greater exposure. We are a part
of a broader social justice movement: it is our
job to convey why that strategy is important.
People understand best what they experience every
day. The origins of hate and discrimination are
not isolated. Homophobic people are usually racist
as well. Theres a definite relationship
between sexism, racism and ageism. Theres
the progressive thingthat all of those things
are all connected. When we make that connection
for people, thats when well see huge
increases in the number of people involved in
our movement.
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