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Ernie's
Out!
After finally coming out, I realized
it really wasn't a big deal after all by
Ernie Manouse
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Editor's
note: We were surprised and delighted when Ernie
Manouse chose to come out in our magazine, in
the Pride edition. (Ernie's comment as the
OutSmart float went past the reviewing stand
at the Pride Parade: "Hey Maria [Todd], I'm gay!
It must be true, I read it in OutSmart!")
So, six months later, in honor of National
Coming Out Day, we thought we'd check in with
Ernie and see how coming out has affected his
life and his work relationships. Ernie's experiences
serve as inspiration to everyone who is wondering
if they have the courage to come out of the closet
themselves.
Since October 11 is National Coming Out Day, two
things come to mind. First, they have a day for
everything these days, and second, I guess I am
"out"...officially!
When I sat down in May to be interviewed for
OutSmart, it was to help promote the Pride
Parade. Well, I have never thought of myself as
closeted until the question about whether or not
I was gay came up-and funny as it seems, it was
strange to answer. Of course, I wondered how people
would respond. Would this affect the show, the
audience's relationship with me, would there be
a backlash? Now everyone could know that "secret"
part of me...and not just those who I chose to
tell. But then again, anyone who looks at me knows
the color of my skin or the color of my hair (well,
that one can be a bit tricky) and that has never
bothered me, so why should this?
Truth be told, after reading the article (which
I rushed to pick up the hour it hit the street),
I was more concerned that my edited comments about
public television would get me in more trouble
than the gay stuff (the
complete comments can be read on the web version
of the article). Neither happened-life went
on, and now in some strange way, I had become
the most visible openly gay person in Houston
television.
So how has the OutSmart article changed
me? I would say "very little, if at all," but
being the journalist that I am, that knee-jerk
reaction was not enough. I had to investigate,
and so I asked the people I work with every day
how this has changed me, them, us...and here is
what they had to say.
"As far as I'm concerned, whether Ernie is gay
or not is irrelevant. I never have cared who people
sleep with. I see Ernie as I do everyone else,
as human beings; sexuality is only part of it.
I love Ernie. He's talented, funny, well-read,
and smiles all the time. Most importantly, he's
very comfortable with himself and I wish everyone,
gay or straight, would be like that. As far as
I'm concerned, Ernie was always 'out'-out of fear,
confusion, and pain that many have felt due to
other people's ignorance. He chose to be who he
is and to share that with us all, and that is
fine with me. Thank God." -Patricia Gras, Producer/Reporter
"Out? Ernie always tells people he's part of the
'in' crowd." -Will Hilton, Programming
"Ernie's OUT? When was he ever really IN? Out,
in, upside down, right side up or sideways, Ernie
is always fun to work with. He is a top-notch
interviewer who has always been able to get more
meaningful conversation out of his interviewees
than most talk-show hosts-gay or straight." -Heidi
Slater, Program Guide Editor
"Ernie is the same as he ever was, completely
open and friendly. I've only known him for about
two years-in fact, I've only been out of college
for two years-but in that time he has actually
helped me realize that the stereotypes I've heard/had
about gay men are completely untrue. I've lead
what most people call a sheltered life, and Ernie
is actually the first gay man I've ever worked
with. So, my experience with Ernie has been completely
mind-opening and wonderful. He is truly one of
my favorite people to work with." -Amanda King,
Intern Producer
"Gee, I really can't answer that 'cuz you never
told me you were gay. I kinda figured it out by
myself. In terms of how it affected our working
relationship, it meant I had no one at work to
look at chicks with. It really did not affect
the way we worked together except that I learned
about a new culture and how to dress better."
-Jim Collins, Director, Crosstalk with Ernie
Manouse (Chicago)
"For most of the years I've worked with Ernie,
I was pretty sure he was gay, but we never spoke
about it. A couple of years ago, we were having
a conversation about someone he was dating, and
he kept awkwardly avoiding the use of the words
'he,' 'him,' etc. I told him, 'You know I know
you're gay, don't you? You don't have to dance
around it.' There was a sense of relief between
both of us. Our working relationship and our friendship
has gotten even stronger now, because he knows
it doesn't bother me and there is nothing to hide."
-Doug Mueller, Producer, Broadcast Creative Services
"I didn't notice a dif." -Kirk Kauder, Crew Member/Producer
"Ernie's coming out has been nothing short of
a tremendous pain-in-the-ass to me. Now all he
wants to do is follow me to the bars and try to
steal all the men I am cruising!" -Nick Brines,
U of H Alumni Relations
"Even if it was not spoken, I think we all knew,
and Ernie never really made much of an effort
to hide it. After the article came out, we all
found that we could openly joke about it, as we
do with everything else in everyone else's lives.
So it took a pressure off us and equaled the field.
It made no difference that he was gay-the problem
was there was something we couldn't talk about
and that's what built the walls. Now, nothing
is sacred during lunch!" -Jill Snyder, Programming
Assistant
"Having never seen E's mid-drift, I was unaware
that he has an outie. Actually, Ernie's friendship
with his co-workers has not changed or altered
itself in the least, except that now we have to
bow our heads when we speak to him-but I think
that was coming anyway." -Mark Kennedy, Director
"I guess I should have figured out that Ernie
was gay before the article came out. I mean, how
many ABBA albums can one man actually own? His
openness and sincerity about his life outside
of work has made our working relationship and
friendship much stronger." -Michael Horne, Crew
"Ernie was always with my girlfriend, and they
would chat together and hang out-kinda made me
worry. But then that article came out and all
that gay stuff-so everything is alright. So, I
don't have to worry. I mean, he really is gay,
right? This isn't just some sort of a joke?" -Matt
Brawley, Crew
"I knew early on that Ernie was gay. I would drop
hints letting him know that I was fine with 'the
gay thing,' hoping that it would make him feel
more comfortable and able to open up to me. I
didn't want to press the issue and say, 'Look,
I know you're gay and I'm cool with it.' I wanted
him to feel comfortable with it first. But I have
to admit that it bothered me that he wasn't being
honest. I felt he was hiding something from me
and that it was an impediment to the growth of
our friendship. Friendships are based on trust
and I felt that by him not sharing that part with
me I wasn't getting the whole Ernie, the real
Ernie. I remember the exact moment he came out
to me. He was really bothered about a problem
he was having with someone he was dating but he
wasn't telling me what was bugging him. FINALLY,
he opened up to me. The first thing I said to
him was, 'Thank God, finally,' and then 'It took
you freakin' long enough!' From that moment on,
our friendship became deeper and more honest.
Basically, as a straight person looking from the
outside, what I think about this whole 'out' issue
is, life is too short to live a lie and the people
who are truly worthy of being your friend will
stand by you no matter what. And if they don't,
well they weren't worth your time to begin with.
Rock on!" -Julie Coan, Co-Producer WeekDay
"I was SHOCKED...I mean I just couldn't believe
it! But, in the end, it didn't really change anything
at work or in our friendship. Now I just go to
him for fashion advice!" -Gina Miller-Parker,
Development
"I believe Ernie's 'coming out' has enabled him
to draw from a significant part of his life that
he felt compelled to conceal before. Although
he and I were friends months before he actually
told me, it wasn't until after he told me he was
gay that I feel he was allowed to truly be himself
in our friendship." -Ted Westby, Producer
"Coming out. Are you nuts?!!!!!!!!!! You'll never
replace Pat O'Brien now." -James Manouse, Ernie's
Brother
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