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k.d. comes to town
k..d. lang fans with a constant craving for
her talent can catch her later this month in
concert with the Houston Symphony
by Olivia Flores Alvarez

Photo by Just Loomis
Fresh off a Grammy win with Tony Bennett for
their duet CD A Wonderful World, k.d. lang will
join the Houston Symphony in concerts on April
30 and May 1. In Jones Hall, she will perform
music from her many recordings—which include
Invincible Summer, Drag, Shadowland, Ingenue,
and her U.S. debut, Angel with a Lariat—and
probably some surprises. The Houston engagement
will kick off a six-month nationwide tour. Her
May 1 performance is a benefit evening for the
symphony and HIV/AIDS service provider Bering
Omega Community Services.
I recently spoke by phone with lang, one of
Canada’s top exports and one of the first
famously out performers in entertainment.
Olivia Flores Alvarez: Congratulations on winning
the Grammy.
k.d. lang: Oh, thank you. That was a nice surprise.
I was really happy.
OFA: What was it like to record with Tony Bennett?
kdl: He’s the greatest. There are so many
benefits to my relationship with Tony. First
of all, musically, just to be led by someone
who is one of the foundations of that era of
music and to be taught directly through that
lineage is just an amazing, amazing gift. So
musically, you can’t beat it.
Then there’s the aspect of having a friend
who’s your elder of that many years. It’s
a very, very precious thing. Our society doesn’t
really lend itself to that so much, and I think
it’s really beneficial to people to have
friends who are of different ages. I really have
learned a lot from Tony and I feel much the richer
for it.
OFA: Any other dream duos that you would like
to record with?
kdl: This is going to be hard to top, of course.
The thing is that I think that what’s been
so magical about my relationship with everyone
I’ve worked with—Owen Bradley, Roy
Orbison, and Tony Bennett—is that these
were things that I never, ever would have predicted
or foreseen. They come out of nowhere and they
weren’t something that I would have generally
said, “This is what I want to do,” but
they turned out to be really special.
OFA: Houston is the kickoff for your new tour,
right?
kdl: You’re my kickoff, yes.
OFA: You’ll be performing with the Houston
Symphony, premiering all new orchestral arrangements
of your music. That’s a new direction for
you, isn’t it?
kdl: Yes. Hopefully, it’s the beginning
of a new era for me. I really feel like it’s
a new path for me. The Houston Symphony was the
symphony that was really, really supportive and
really put a lot of momentum in terms of energy
and support into the idea, so I’m really
honored to be there.
I’m going to be really nervous. There’s
something beautiful about the first show, because
it’s raw and honest, and there’s
mistakes, you know? It’s going to be exciting.
OFA: The Houston Symphony has really expanded
their programming over the last few years. They’re
really stretching and adding new shows like yours.
kdl: That’s wonderful, and that’s
probably part of why they’re thriving,
because they’re so open to new ideas, to
doing more.
OFA: From the very beginning, your music hasn’t
been easy to describe. You defied the traditional
ideas of what country music was or what pop music
was, and now you’re singing with symphony
orchestras. What terms do you use to describe
your music?
kdl: Well, I’ll give you the definition
and I’ll give you a metaphor. I’m
a singer. That’s the definition [laughs].
The metaphor is I’m water, and water seems
to find its natural path just by flowing, and
I do the same thing. If I come to an obstacle,
I go around it. I don’t know how I do what
I do. I don’t know what attracts me to
something. I really just follow my natural instincts
and my natural obsessions and likes.
I really just trust my instincts. And sometimes
I end up doing stuff that’s not so good,
because it’s hard to market and people
are scratching their heads and saying, “I
don’t know what that was.” But at
the same time it keeps me alive, it keeps me
vibrant and excited. I can’t think of anything
worse, for me personally, just because I’m
kind of a nomad, than to do the same record over
and over again. That would be detrimental to
me and my audience.
OFA: Speaking of your audience, you seem to
have a lot of respect and trust for your audience.
kdl: I do. I have a real trust that real good
music is everything and that image isn’t.
I’m not on a rampage about it, but I feel
very strongly that it’s a tremendous disservice
by providing them everything in terms of image
and lifestyle, that you know what kind of tampons
some star uses because the [media] is digging
in people’s purses at the Oscars. I really
just feel that there is too much information.
I trust that people will have their own imagination.
I am not the person to tell them what to eat,
I’m not the person to tell them what kind
of perfume to wear or what color living room
to have. I really trust an individual will grow
and be an amazing example of perfection if they’re
just left alone. So I do what I do and leave
the rest up to the audience.
OFA: But all that seems to come with being a
celebrity. What’s it like to live in a
world where the media and the public think they
should have access to everything you do, just
because you’re famous? We saw the circus
that surrounded Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck
recently, and there’s no way to describe
that but madness.
kdl: My answer to that is really, really simple.
I have no problem telling you what I ate for
breakfast. I have no problem inviting you to
go through my sock drawer. I think the difference
being that when I make my art, it is honest and
vulnerable, and it’s me. But I’m
not relying on my sock drawer to enhance that.
I think what happens is that we’ve let
material and peripheral existence represent us—who
we are emotionally and spiritually. That’s
where the problem is. The problem is that people
aren’t representing themselves spiritually,
so we keep digging for these things materially
to answer that, but it doesn’t answer that
need. It just perpetuates the cycle of suffering.
So when you open yourself up spiritually and
honestly, then you are getting that. You are
being fed something real. It’s like organic
food, exactly like food. If you eat something
that is real and has all the mineral content,
all the vitamin content, and proper water content,
then you’re satisfied. But if you eat something
that is completely manufactured and has no nutritional
value, you’re still hungry. It’s
the same with music.
OFA: But your show and your life aren’t
the same thing, or are they?
kdl: The gap between me off stage and me on
stage is less and less, because I don’t
have to protect myself. When I’m on stage,
there’s nothing going on except what’s
going on.
OFA: When you came out 12 years ago, your off-stage
and on-stage worlds seemed to really collide.
There was real concern that Nashville would reject
you, and your career would be over. You were
Canadian, you didn’t eat meat, and you
were an out lesbian. People were afraid that
was going to be a real backlash against you and
your music. Did that, in fact, happen?
kdl: It did happen and it didn’t happen.
It did happen in terms of my commercial success.
I still don’t get played on the radio because
advertisers are scared of me. But what didn’t
happen is that my spirit didn’t die, my
self-confidence didn’t die, and I tried
to handle it in the best way I could.
OFA: For a while there, you became the poster
girl for gay rights.
kdl: Yep. I knew that was going to happen, and
I wanted to take that on, and I wanted to be
as accessible as possible, because I knew there
was no one else to answer those questions. And
sometimes it was a pain in the ass. After a while,
you get a little defensive or tired or you want
the focus to shift back to your art, but I feel
confident that that has happened in the long
run. Evolution is a very, very slow process.
For me, working with someone like Tony Bennett
is the most beneficial thing I could do for the
gay community. Even though we’re not talking
about it like a gay person and a straight person
singing love songs, it’s two friends who
are on the outside very different, but spiritually
and musically we’re tremendous friends.
And to me that has more meaning and substance
in terms of moving the gay community forward
than it does if I was marching up and down with
a sign that says, “I’m queer and
I’m here!”
OFA: I’ve heard you talk about fame before,
and I’m going to paraphrase you, so forgive
me if I don’t get this exactly right, but
you said that you didn’t want to be famous
until you were dead, because you wanted to spend
your life making music, not making fame.
kdl: Yeah, that sounds like me. I don’t
know exactly what I said either, but I understand
what I meant. I think that as famous as I might
get, and let me clarify—I’m talking
about fame in my own head, because it’s
irrelevant whatever happens outside of me in
terms of my perception—as famous as I might
get, my job as a singer is still just to sing,
just to create music, and not to get caught up
with how many people know my name. Whatever time
or energy I’d give to making myself famous
is time and energy that I’d have to take
away from my music. That’s not the purpose
of my career. That’s not why I do this.
OFA: Getting back to your new show, how do you
get ready for a tour like this? What’s
the process for you to create a show like this,
to create your music?
kdl: Oh, that would take a lifetime to answer
[groans]. I mean, yeah, there is the logistics,
the meetings, the sound checks, the bass player
and the conductor, and making an album, but really
it’s every breath, every enemy, every gray
hair, every tear, every smile, every ex-lover.
It is so all encompassing to be an artist that
I think people really fail to remember that it
is a 24-hour-a-day job. When you’re walking,
you’re being an artist, you’re working.
I think a lot of people forget that.
And that’s not just about being an artist.
Being a human being is a 24-hour-a-day job. And
that goes back to the question of why people
are so interested in Jen [Lopez]: because they’re
not looking at themselves. They want anything,
any distraction, because they are so afraid to
sit down and hear their own thoughts. And that’s
what an artist does. They sit down and listen
to their own brain. Of course, that’s why
they’re all alcoholics and smoke too much,
too [both laugh].
OFA: Besides listening to your own brain, do
you listen to other music?
kdl: I’ve stopped listening. I listen
to the radio some, but I don’t actually
go out and buy records so much anymore. I really
listen to, ah, I know this sounds so corny, but
I listen to life. I listen to my friends, I listen
to the news, I listen to my dog barking. I listen
to everything. It’s not just music. I listen
to people walking down the street. I listen to
everything, because the sources of music are
so far beyond music itself.
OFA: Your concerts are a real emotional experience
for your audience and, we would guess, for you.
Is it as exhausting as it seems? Do you still
enjoy performing?
kdl: Well, I came to a pinnacle in my performing
life when I stopped fighting the fact that I
have to go on stage and sing. When I started
to realize all the work, all the record making,
all the bickering between record companies and
managers, all the airplanes and all the baggage
and all the dirty laundry and all the stinking
hotel rooms, if it didn’t make sense for
the two hours that I was standing on that stage,
if I wasn’t in the most godly place, then
I should quit.
I wouldn’t do it if it didn’t make
sense for me, I really wouldn’t. I don’t
do things that I don’t like to do, things
that don’t make sense to me.
OFA: You’re going to be part of two Olivia
Cruises later this summer, two “honeymoon” cruises
with hundreds of same-gender couples getting
married in a mass ceremony onboard. That seems
like it’s going to be a blast.
kdl: I’m a wedding singer [laughs]. I’m
finally a professional wedding singer.
Actually, this is fantastic. I can’t wait.
I’m not a resounding “Yes to gay
marriage!” person, because I see the foils
in it as well—that we want to be accepted
into this culture that is crazy anyway—but
I’m happy because I think people should
marry whoever the hell they want to marry. Life
is short, and love is precious, and I’m
really happy to get to be there. I hope everybody
gets dressed up and has a good time. I’m
finally a wedding singer. Who knew?
OFA: I always think Olivia Cruises should give
me a discount because I’m named Olivia,
but they never have.
kdl: [Laughs] You’re right, they should.
OFA: I’ve had people ask me if I changed
my name to Olivia so that I could write for gay
magazines, and I always think, “Nah, that’s
a little more creative than anything I would
have come up with.” I was actually named
Olivia at birth, before anyone knew it would
become code for lesbian.
kdl: If your first name was “Olivia” and
your middle name was “Lavender,” then
that would be a gay writer’s name. Or if
your last name were “Cruise,” maybe
Olivia Cruises would give you a discount then.
OFA: Maybe. I ought to ask them.
kdl: Yeah, and let me know how it goes [laughs].
A frequent contributor to OutSmart, Olivia Flores
Alvarez is a freelance writer specializing in
the arts and entertainment.
ON STAGE
K.d. lang will perform with the Houston Symphony,
under the direction of Charles Floyd, on April
30 and May 1 in Jones Hall.
For the May 1 performance, the symphony and
Bering Omega Community Services, the nonprofit
HIV/AIDS service provider, have partnered in
a special benefit program. Proceeds from the
sales of VIP packages to the concert will support
the symphony and Bering Omega. The VIP package
($250 per person) includes a center-orchestra
ticket and admission to a private, post-concert
reception with lang at the Magnolia Hotel.
To order a VIP package, call 713/344-5617. Regular
tickets ($35 to $90) are available by phone at
713/224-7575 or online at www.houstonsymphony.org.
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